The moment it was announced that President Bush was coming to town to headline a fundraiser for Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, we figure this became more or less inevitable.
Stan Matsunaka (not to mention Angie Paccione) might cringe, but the “Pink Lady” is back with a whole new set of backdrops and poses.
All thanks to Progress Now, the Denver-based “not affiliated with any political party” leftie media group. They’ve set up a “Build Your Own Billboard” tool that allows users to caption a number of (obviously Photoshopped) Bush/Musgrave pics, and they’ve promised to plaster the winning design across the side of a rolling billboard truck for Bush’s visit on the 29th.
There certainly is an argument that the “Pink Lady” ad campaign in 2004 was not well received. Opponent Stan Matsunaka immediately distanced himself from the ads, which portrayed a Musgrave lookalike in a pink dress picking the pockets of dead soldiers. Some Democrats cheered them on, but the sponsoring organization headed by well-known Democrat operative Tim Knaus was heavily criticized in the end for running them.
Still, the very different political climate we’re in today as compared to 2004 might serve to rehabilate her as a useful symbol.
It’s an interesting gimmick, so we sent them a billboard that simply reads “Coloradopols.com.” There’s no such thing as bad press.
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There wasn’t a whole lot of criticism except from Musgrave’s goon squad and weak kneed lefties who will forever be fighting their way out of wet paper bags.
Not only did the ads lower Musgrave’s negatives so the Matsunaka “campaign” had a remote shot, but were singled out as the most effective ads in the ’04 cycle nationwide.
I am happy to see the fat lady has not yet sung and Dems have finally grown a…or fought their way out of…a sack.
Alan, I think you are mistaken. I saw that Time Magazine called them the “sleaziest” in the nation, but effectivenes and sleaziness are two different things.
My wife’s suggestion for an accurate billboard would be an actual picture of W giving us all the finger . . .
Those ads were so sleazy they prompted Dianne Carman of the Denver Post to defend Musgrave. THAT wasn’t easy, and marks a new low in the history of counter-productive advertising.
Is any one else hearing that Angie may be getting out of the race. Rumors are rampant.
hilarious…
Voyageur – counterproductive? Do you have any evidence of that? She won by the lowest margin of any incumbent in the nation in 2004.
Efeective? Sleazy? Often times they are one in the same. People tell pollsters and the media that they prefer clean campaigns and they dislike neagtive ads. Yet time after time the most effective campaign ads are negative ones – Swift Boat anyone?
Roger D-
as of last week, Angie was going strong and was not even considering getting out. This was according to their communications director who poo-pooed the rumors.
I think Progress Now and the liberals are showing their true colors. They don’t want to debate the issues, they just want to express their hate for Republican in general and Bush specifically.
It is really sad that this is the level that politics and public discourse has sunk to.
Jonathan- your statement is something coming from someone who probably stood approvingly by as the slime boat liars did their effective worst/best last time around, and before that as they even trashed one of their putative own McCain in the South Carolina 2000 primaries and you talk about hate.I don’t even want to talk about all your brave boys in the house turning loose the female rookie schmidt on a decorated marine veteran.
Jonathan,
You mean like the important issue of terrorist marriage…because after all gays can’t reproduce. I am sure that just went over your head.
Oh Please…Republicans want to complain about the political environment they have created where everything is a wedge issue and all they want to do is divide us into nice neat little piles.
The people are sick of Marilyn Musgrave where she just wants to divide this country in any way possible for personal gain and we aren’t afraid to turn her tactics back on her.
Threeblindrodents, you’re historical revisionism defies the facts. Musgrave won by 6 points over Stan MAtsunaka. She had 51 percent, Matsunaka 45 percent, while Green Party
candidate Bob Kinsey got 4 percent. It’s only close if you combine the Green and Democrat vote, but once again the Greens sabotaged a moderate Democrat. In this case, pretty clearly, sleaze is not effective. Of course, Marilyn took some hard shots at Stan too. The rule is that negative campaigns suppress turnout. But reduced turnouts usually hurt Democrats disproportionately. The actress with a fat butt should find a new career, or else Musgrave should buy property in the D.C. area — where she can expect a long residence.
She won by 6 points, that was the lowest margin of victory for an incumbent in 2004.
No revisionism neccesary Voyageur, as your post indicates 51-45 is a 6 point win.
HA HA OMG I LOVE THIS ONE!
Let me get the Door to hell for you Marilyn
What a hoot!
Have a good long weekend Everyone!!!
donquixote’shorse,
I appriciate how you pretend to know me and then accuse me of hate. It is a typical response from liberal in general.
Lets get the facts straight here, there is a difference between someone being truthful and someone being hateful. I think liberals get confused on this issue because the want to paint everything they don’t agree with as hateful, even if it is, in fact, a true statement. I personally don’t agree with hateful tactics on either side of the isle.
As for Schmidt, how is she being hateful? She read a letter that was given to her by a decorated Marine Corps Cornal expressing his sentiment on the War in Iraq.
Marshall,
If you read my post you will ses that I never complained about the political environment, in fact I think intelligent discourse is very inportant, but unfortunately it rarely happens.
As for Musgrave, you may be sick of her and want to see her thrown out, but if you don’t live in the 4th CD then you don’t get to make a decision. So far the 4th CD has decided to keep her in office, which may not always be the case, but it is for now.
sorry, typing fast, I meant “Colonel”
She is a gay hating Troll… Thats all… a nasty pink troll
Voyageur–
Yes, negative campaigns typically hurt turnout, and lower turnout usually helps Republicans. But it’s also true that you can’t oust an incumbent–and certainly not one in a district where the numbers so heavily favor a Republican–without educating voters about why the incumbent is bad for the district and therefore needs to be replaced. That means going negative.
Stan resisted going negative on Musgrave in 2002, in large part because he’s such a good guy (too good, in fact, to ever be a member of the U.S. House of Representatives). But the negatives on Musgrave are plentiful and nasty. And they must be hammered into the minds of voters if we are ever to rid the 4th of Musgrave.
as of last week, Angie was going strong and was not even considering getting out. “
very true
maybe things have changed dramatically in the last 7 days but as of mid-week last week she was firmly in the race.
Negative Campaigning works.
Otherwise Republicans would NOT use it.
“Swift Boat that dude.”
Go ahead and sign that 7-year lease on that townhouse in Georgetown, Marilyn. The Democratic hatemongers are proving once again they can’t learn from experience. You’re safe until at least 2012, when redistricting may change the numbers. And thanks again for standing up for the district and the country by voting for CAFTA.
yes thanks for voting for CAFTA and showing us once again that you are going to make sure no corporations are left behind.
Dear Colorado Pols,
Here is what’s going on on earth-
http://www.dccc.org/campaignforchange/candidates/
Sincerely,
Yet another person who thinks rumors are for grade schoolers.
Note to Jonathan re: your “As for Schmidt, how is she being hateful? She read a letter that was given to her by a decorated Marine Corps Cornal (sic) expressing his sentiment on the War in Iraq.”
#1: It wasn’t a letter. Schmidt spoke to Bubp by phone just before she went to the House to deliver her remarks.
#2: The “decorated Marine” is a Republican member of the Ohio House. And if’s he’s “decorated,” it isn’t for combat – Bubp has NEVER spent even one minute in a combat situation.
His record: (From his website)
Military Service :
1978 – Commissioned as Second Lieutenant in the United States Marine Corps
1978-Present – Continues to serve in United States Marine Corps Reserve as a Colonel of Marines
1997-Present – Serves on the staff at the National Defense University, Washington, D.C. as Team Leader for the Reserve Component National Security Course
2003 – Graduate of Naval War College, Newport, Rhode Island
2003 – Served on the J-3 Staff at United States Central Command, Tampa, Florida for General Tommy Franks in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom
#3: Bubpa denies ever that he ever mentioned Murtha by name or used the word “coward.” That was Schmidt’s own stupid idea. She’s getting raked over the coals and rightly so.
Source: http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/1123schmidt.html
Voyaguer – why so snippy? Your posts are usually so logical and well thought. Some of us question Marily Musgrave and look how quickly you turn. What gives?
What has she done for her district? From where I’m sitting not much. She has cozied up to Tom DeLay and wasted her time with a redundant and misguided Gay Marriage Amendment though.
I’d love to hear about all of the good that she’s done for the people of the 4th.
As someone who lives in her district, the only things I want her to do is reduce spending, reduce taxes, and eliminate bureaucracy.
you know, the things Republicans candidates claim to believe in.
btw, her vote on CAFTA was wrong. How can U.S. manufacturers compete with the Third-World unless she actually does the things I want her to do? Our tax code is 16,000 pages for crying-out-loud! Instead of telling queers what they cannot do, she should have introduced an amendment that repeals the 16th. Until this happens, K-Street lobbyists will continue to have more influence than any group of citizens who don’t work in DC.
I suppose I’ll be voting libertarian…again.
The snippyness is directed at those dems who think you can beat Musgrave by running attack ads of actresses with fat butts pretending to be her. Have a little respect for the voters, threeblindmice. The fact is, I don’t think you can beat marilyn in the 4th. Matsunaka was as good as it gets, his Senate district was actually the most Republican part of the 4th, and he couldn’t pull it off. It’s just a conservative district, and doubly so on the social front. It’s very hard to beat an incumbent anywhere and with the R registration edge in the fourth, doubly so. But attack ads like the fat-butt lady aren’t really designed to win, they’re designed to make rich 527 contriubotors feel good. Stan knew exactly what he was doing by sticking to the high road, but this district has never gone Democrat in its modern configuration, if you don’t count the minor exception of sending a Democrat to the CU Board of Regents.
Actually Marshall, contrary to what you believe or read about CAFTA, most of the farmers in the 4th CD were in favor of CAFTA. I am one of those farmers. The only producer it didn’t help out was sugar beet growers, but the amount of sugar that comes in from central America and ends up in the consumers house is the equivalent of about two spoonfuls. So yes CAFTA is good for some people other than the corporations you talk about. It’s similar how you Democrats love the death tax so much because you think it’s taxing only the rich, well guess what it’s hurting family farms as well.
I guess I don’t really have an opinion as to whether or not the lady in pink has a fat butt or not. BUT, Ms. Musgrave is, as I’ve noted before, a creature of her environment and, as such, can be expected to champion legislation that preserves the great institution of marriage (50% of which amongst heterosexuals ends in divorce). As has been noted, Ms. Musgrave serves her flatlander constituency and–certainly as we all know, the central core of the politician’s soul–necessarily revolves around the next election. Anyway, let me say that a few years ago I visited the Robert’s Ranch–as a representative of Wellington Webb–up in Musgrave country where a portion of the Overland Trail is still preserved and I was absolutely fascinated with the precious worth of what I found there. The point of inviting politicos up to the ranch was, of course, to argue for the disolution or a major modification to what has become known as the “death tax.” Indeed, the Roberts’ efforts at preserving that portion of the Overland Trail which crosses their land was admirable. And, of course, in spite of what I believe is about a 20,000 acre spread up there next to the Wyoming line and certainly qualifies the owners (the Roberts) as a wee bit wealthy, there is the urge to conclude that the “death tax” does need a little tweaking; a little examination under the scrutiny of the need for the preservation of historically significant sites that happen to sit on privately owned land.
Voyager–
You said:
“She [Musgrave] had 51 percent, Matsunaka 45 percent, while Green Party candidate Bob Kinsey got 4 percent. It’s only
close if you combine the Green and Democrat vote, but once again the Greens sabotaged a moderate
Democrat.”
This is not exactly how it came down. Kinsey asked the Dems if they were going to run a candidate and they said no. Seems
they were just going to pass on that district. Until they saw he was getting some traction then up jumped Matsunaka.
So the spoilers were the Dems.
Once more you cowards show your stripes by failing to report that ProgressNow.org is actually MoveOn.org.